Im thinking.....

4james2S.0 · Post by **4james2S.0** » Dec 21 2004 05:17 pm

allmightyone420 wrote:I'm thinking of taking a bong hit before work...only to reward myself for a productive morning!

that should really help out in the production for the rest of the day

Angie · Post by **Angie** » Dec 21 2004 06:59 pm

you rolled your eyes? i'm thinkin you can't possibly be serious mr. i can'tdoanythingwithoutsmokingweedfirst.

that and Dawn.. i made the remark about DBK's posting.. and i'm not a postwhore, and me and DBK are down. No jealousy here.

DBK · Post by **DBK** » Dec 21 2004 07:13 pm

down4life2k · Post by **down4life2k** » Dec 22 2004 12:19 am

I am thinking...what is the minimum about of sleep that a body can handle before it begins to suffer serious harm. I knew a guy once that swore that he only meditated and napped for like a hour and a half per day Mon-Fri...then slept on the weekend. Don't know if it is true though.

Angie · Post by **Angie** » Dec 22 2004 02:04 am

I could do it.

But, i don't sleep on the weekend.

DBK · Post by **DBK** » Dec 22 2004 10:11 am

yeah no kidding... my weekdays are when I make up for the weekend

but there is some truth to the meditation lowering how much sleep you need... I know when I meditate I only sleep for 4-6 hours compared to 7.5-8hours at night. I believe it has something to do with brainwaves and how during meditation you put off both Theta and Delta waves in the deeper states, thus replicating the patterns of sleep and actually going a stage or two deeper than what is achieved during sleep. I don't have any of my Israel Regardie literature lying around to quote, but I believe that's correct.

Stardust · Post by **Stardust** » Dec 22 2004 11:08 am

Depends on what kind of mediation you are talking bout really. All mediation does not work on everyone and it actually can create anxiety in some, each one takes many years to truely master. If you are talking by deep muscle relaxation it may or may not work for you. If you r talking bout progressive relaxation again takes many years to master. The actual teachings of zazen and so forth require full devotion to the teachings and practice... it is documented that once you do become a master of these techniques your respiratory decreases, along with heart rate,and a couple of other physiological symptoms to a more sedative like state. So that is where the sleeping less takes place. haha sorry tangent there, really interesting stuff actually if you look into it...

but back to the topic i'm thinking i hope my little brother has a safe flight back today, and i have way too much stuff to do tom. i'm also thinking i might actually try finish up painting!

DBK · Post by **DBK** » Dec 22 2004 11:14 am

I'm talking about breath counting... and yeah, it does take quite some time to really see major progress, but you get some of the benefits immediately like calmer nerves, better attitude, and higher tolerance to stress

The actual teachings of zazen and so forth require full devotion

That's hilarious you use that as an example though, cause doesn't ZaZen teach working towards your goals without worrying about getting to them?
now THAT takes devotion

Preppy Raver · Post by **Preppy Raver** » Dec 22 2004 11:35 am

Stardust wrote:Depends on what kind of mediation you are talking bout really. All mediation does not work on everyone and it actually can create anxiety in some, each one takes many years to truely master. If you are talking by deep muscle relaxation it may or may not work for you. If you r talking bout progressive relaxation again takes many years to master. The actual teachings of zazen and so forth require full devotion to the teachings and practice... it is documented that once you do become a master of these techniques your respiratory decreases, along with heart rate,and a couple of other physiological symptoms to a more sedative like state. So that is where the sleeping less takes place. haha sorry tangent there, really interesting stuff actually if you look into it...

but back to the topic i'm thinking i hope my little brother has a safe flight back today, and i have way too much stuff to do tom. i'm also thinking i might actually try finish up painting!

i have been re-reading the book of zazen, and eventhough i find it extremely hard to be devoted to, the little things i have gotten from my readings have been very helpful.

Stardust · Post by **Stardust** » Dec 22 2004 11:57 am

ur right katie, the little things do help you quickly.

lol DBK i guess devotion wasnt the best word to use eh? haha i wasnt taking away from what u said just adding to it, i find the whole world of alternative medicine (CAM) and mediation fascinating and extremely helpful! Allgood!

lol k back to the subject at hand...
I'm thinking caffeine dosent work on me much anymore!

DBK · Post by **DBK** » Dec 22 2004 12:00 pm

i find the whole world of alternative medicine (CAM) and mediation fascinating and extremely helpful!

me too.

...and I'm thinking about skipping lunch today and just getting a french vanilla bean street coffee, those things are awesome. Or even going to Starbucks, I could really use a venti mocha latté with a pump of hazelnut

I just really want some quality coffee right now.

Stardust · Post by **Stardust** » Dec 22 2004 12:04 pm

damn coffee sounds really good... mmmm white choclate mocha w/ ice and soy from starbucks....damn! i think i might need to get some during lunch...

TrixR4Me · Post by **TrixR4Me** » Dec 22 2004 12:08 pm

Im thinking Im going to try to make it out to the Op mall today and meet up with my friend Sally...lets see whatelse... Im also thinking that coffee doesn't wake me up anymore

Stardust · Post by **Stardust** » Dec 22 2004 01:51 pm

TrixR4Me wrote: Im also thinking that coffee doesn't wake me up anymore

haha yeah same with me thats why u go to starbucks and ask them to add like one or two extra shots of espresso

...

DBK · Post by **DBK** » Dec 22 2004 03:11 pm

or switch to a columbian dark roast... seems to bring that kick back